What is it?
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Topic: What is it?
Posted By: John-G
Subject: What is it?
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 15:22
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I brought this off Ebay the other day, I don't know why, just curiosity. I have had a look through Putnams German WW1 book and cannot see this machine or is it French? Cheers John-G  ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |
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Posted By: WrightBrother
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 16:22
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John, Looks like a Henry Farman F.27, poss a later model? Peter Wright.
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Posted By: WrightBrother
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 16:24
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John, Looks like a later model of an Henry Farman F.27. Peter Wright.
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Posted By: John-G
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 20:28
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Hi Peter, Thanks I will try and see if I can find another source to confirm it. John-G ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |
Posted By: AndyK
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 21:09
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Hi John The Farman F.27 had no wing stagger, which this chap clearly has. I think what you have here is a Voisin 4 (or LB), which was a Voisin 3 modified to take a 37mm canon and powered by a 120hp Salmson M.9. The French used a few escadrilles of these for various duties during 1915 & into 1916; initially as fighters, but later, more successfully, as night fighters and ground attack. Cheers, AndyK |
Posted By: John-G
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 22:50
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Thanks Andy, I'll have to try and find some reference source. john-g ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |
Posted By: albatros1234
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 04:40
| i do believe andy is correct in saying this is a voisin although i think it may be a 5 with salmson engine. all of the voisins look similar with the 4 wheel undercarrige but the shape of the nacelle leads me to say it is a later version, but definately voisin. |
Posted By: John-G
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 08:28
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Thanks albatros1234, do you have a drawing of photograph that might clarify the identity? John-G ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |
Posted By: NickForder
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 09:20
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I would say that is it a Voisin VII. I think that this website has a similar picture of the same aircraft (marked 5) - http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=17605 The Voisin VIII night bomber has fuel tanks mounted between the wings, viz http://www.aviafrance.com/voisin-viii-aviation-france-958.htm |
Posted By: AndyK
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 12:37
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The photo you've located there is almost certainly the same aircraft as John's. Probably a different shot in the same photo session - good find! However, it's not a Voisin 7 - check out Davilla's French Aircraft of WW1. Assuming you trust him as a source, it's definitely a Voisin 4. The 7 had the wing tanks, like the 8. The forward fuselage shape we see in John's pic is specific to the 4, designed to allow full movement of the 37mm gun. |
Posted By: NickForder
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 17:09
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I was sent a list of corrections for Davilla that runs to several pages, but we'll not get in to that just now... I've tried to make sense of French aircraft designations, so Davilla & Soltan have my greatest sympathy. http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pages1418/aviation-1914-1918/voisin-canon-sujet_526_1more.htm has some more photos and seem to refer to it as a Voisin Canon - which Harry Woodman says is a Voisin Ca 5, the cannon-armed version of the Ca 4, itself a development of the Type V3 or LA. GB1, GB2 & GB3 were escorted by these Voisins during the autumn of 1915. There was an inconclusive combat with a German aircraft on 20.5.1915. V101 & V110 had them on the Verdun front in 1916. Six were in front line service on 22.8.1915, and 25 by 1.2.1916.
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Posted By: John-G
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 19:10
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Thanks for everyone's in put. Looking at the picture Nick found it looks the same to me. I am trying to post the script on the back of it with out much luck, i'll try again later. Cheers John-G ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |
Posted By: John-G
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 20:04
Text on rear of photo ------------- www.66squadron.co.uk |