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PERSONNEL SERVING AT RNAS EAST FORTUNE, UNDER COMMAND OF COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, COAST OF SCOTLAND, 1ST APRIL 1918

Name

Rank

Notes

Abell, GH

Lieutenant Commander Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Adam, HW

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Amos, WG

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Administration Officer

Baird, WD

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Ball, WW

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Bellamy, RF

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Bird, GA

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Booth, CW

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Booth, RS

Flight Commander

Dirigible Officer

Botley, RM

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Brewin, T

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Probationer

Burgess, H

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Chambers, WPC

Flight Commander

Dirigible Officer

Clark, GM

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Clifford, RM

Flight Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Collins, CB

Observer Sub-Lieutenant

Observer Officer

Collins, FP

Flight Lieutenant

Dirigible Officer

Coombes, WJ

Sub-Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Administration Officer

Dubuc, MC

Flight Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Durrance, GE

Warrant Officer

Observer Officer

Eaton, HHE

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

 

Edginton, FG

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Fenn, JFT

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Probationer

Finbow, WG

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Fletcher, AW

Flight Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Foster, WB

Flight Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Glazebrook, PK

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Hall, W

Sub-Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer ?

Hardee, O

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Haworth, JP

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Haywood, AAN

Observer Sub-Lieutenant

Observer Officer

Hembley, F

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Hilton, LM

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Howard, RS

Sub-Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

 

Hunt, RCS

Wing Captain

Dirigible Officer

Johnson, JS

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer/ Probationer ?

Johnson, RM

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Johnston, EL

Flight Commander

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer (serving as airship navigator)

Jones, EB

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer/Probationer ?

Kirkland, RI

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Lees, DH

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Probationer

Lingeman, PDMacA

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Probationer

Logsdial, EW

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Macdonald, AD

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Meteorological Officer

Maitland, PE

Flight Commander

Dirigible Officer

Marsland, EA

Assistant Paymaster Royal Naval Reserve

Administration Officer

McEwan, AG

Flight Lieutenant

Dirigible Officer

Mears, HF

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Middleton, JS

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Morgan, EE

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

O’Hagen, H

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Technical Officer

Parry, WEC

Flight Lieutenant

Dirigible Officer

Petty, HM

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Ruthven, JE

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Administration Officer

Slater, AW

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Smith, CHC

Acting Squadron Commander

Distinguished Service Cross

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Sparling, EH

Squadron Commander

Dirigible Officer

Titheradge, WC

Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Trendell, MHW

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Umpleby, WJ

Observer Sub-Lieutenant

Observer Officer

Usher, EC

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Vaux, N

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Administration Officer

Wann, AH

Flight Commander

Dirigible Officer

Warneford, WKFG

Flight Commander

Dirigible Officer

Wedderburn, LCMcL

Surgeon

 

Wheelwright, JS

Flight Commander

Distinguished Service Cross

Dirigible Officer

Whippey, FA

Observer Sub-Lieutenant

Observer Officer

Wicks, VH

Acting Warrant Officer

Technical Officer

Williams, NE

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

Yates, JMstJ

Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

Administration Officer

Yeulett, WA

Flight Sub-Lieutenant

Aeroplane & Seaplane Officer

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Morning,

I see that there is a personnel listing however my grandfather was there a bit earlier, id there any way of discovering what his duties were, it may be that a personnel records list will state function.

RNAS WHS Garnett Flt Lieutenant or Commander
War service records indicate at East Fortune 4th Nov 1916 to 3rd December 1917

Previously in the Gallipoli serving with on HMS Ark Royal as a pilot

thanks JG

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The information about East Fortune comes from the Navy List for April 1918 which is corrected to the last day of March. Only some issues of the Navy List contain the relevant section, possibly because there were different versions of the Navy List for issue to ships at sea or to overseas bases (where they might be captured) ? Certainly the Army and Air Force Lists are much more comprehensive when we aren't fighting anyone major.

The National Library of Scotland scans commonly available as a CD do not contain the relevant sections, nor do they associate the officers with particular ships, so are much less useful. The selection to be found in the library of the National Museums of Scotland at Edinburgh Castle, however, do contain the section.

I have some relevant (to the particular research project of the time, i.e. Scottish bases)extracts from the latter which I shall attempt to dig out. They were transcribed and copied on to disk which is less useful these days !

Nevertheless, the extent to which 'duties' are covered will be restricted to 'ratings', in this case 'Aeroplane and Seaplane Officer', i.e. pilot.

Two relevant incidences are included in the Air-Britain RNAS serials book :

5.3.1915 Pilot of Sopwith 808 while climbing to observe fire from HMS Queen Elizabeth, propeller broke at 3000 feet, broke starboard wing tip, out of control in spiral dive in to sea 3 miles west of ship. Flt Lt WHS Garnett slightly injured & Flight Commander HA Williamson seriously injured. Crew rescued by HMS Usk. Sopwith Admiralty 807 Type Folder Tractor Biplane Seaplane (100 h.p. Gnome Monosoupape) serial number 808, built at Kingston under Contract C.P.02142/14. Delivered Blyth 10.12.1914. Failed tests 17.12.1914. HMS Ark Royal 4.1.1915. Ark Royal sailed from Sheerness for Dardanelles 2.2.1915.

Sopwith Schneider Tractor Biplane Seaplane number 1437 (100 hp Gnome Mononsoupape). Ordered under contract C.P.31834/15 from Sopwith Aviation Co Ltd. Delivered from Woolston. Packing by 11.3.1915. To Dardanelles in SS Moorgate March 1915. Tested 16.4.1915. To HMS Ark Royal at Musros 9.4.1915. Erected 9=11.4.1915. HMS Doris 29.4.1915. Floats damaged on landing, slowly started to sink but salved by HMS Doris, Gulf of Smyrna 2.5.1915 (pilot F/Lt WHS Garnett). Returned to HMS Ark Royal 8.5.1915. Completely wrecked and returned to Ark Royal in dilapidated state 21.5.1915. SS Penmorvah for overhaul 22.5.1915. Completely recovered and new floats fitted 1.6.1915. Dismantled for storage in SS Penmorvah 8.6.1915. HMS Ark Royal and assembled for Mudros, but engine failure on way to shore base 22.6.1915 (F/Lt WHS Garnett). Operations from shore base from 25.6.1915. Returned to Ark Royal but damaged propeller and both floats while taxying in Kephalo harbour 3.7.1915 (F/Lt CF Lan Davis). Unrigged for repair. Wireless set fitted 12.8.1915. Test after repair but engine vibration 3.9.1915. HMS Roberts September 1915 ? Engine failure after take off, force landed down wind, overturned, salvaged by Trawler No 362 29.9.1915 (F/Lt CW Pulford unhurt). Deleted.

'Scottish Aerodromes of the First World War' by Malcolm Fife will give you a good overview of what happened at East Fortune. Apart from the lighter-than-air operations, there was an anti-Zeppelin 'War Flight' based there, RNAS aircraft tended to be offloaded there if their ships were being refitted nearby (see 'Early Bird' by WG Moore) or they were undertaking trials work (like torpedo dropping).

Flight Lieutenant Walter Hugh Stewart Garnett, seniority 31 December 1914.
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NF,
Thanks for the very quick reply, I have purchased Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919 book though they are in England and I have some others on order.

I am aware of the HMS Queen Elizabeth incident 5 march 1915, there was another in Valletta Harbour 14th February 1915 HMS Ark Royal logs, now another one!

3rd August 1915 Ark Royal logs as the last entry I found with WHSG name is Kephalo Bay 3.00am 1st dispatch boat left for patrol LG in charge.

your info:
22.6.1915 (F/Lt WHS Garnett). Operations from shore base from 25.6.1915. Returned to Ark Royal but damaged propeller and both floats while taxying in Kephalo harbour.

A period of the Ark Royal logs tend not to have the pilots name added, now I wonder if many pilots were living on land for flying duties.

I am trying to discover what happened between lets say 3rd August to 1st January 1916 he is listed as at Eastboure which is a convalescent home in the UK.

thanks JG

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All the airpower deployed by the British in the Dardanelles was RNAS, with 2 Wing and 3 Wing RNAS operating from land. Charles Rumney Samson's 'Fights and Flights' has a very readable, if colourful, account.

For aircraft operations from ships, see Wedgewood Benn's 'In the Sideshows' (available via this website), and for air ops in the Dardanelles there is also Mr Burns' 'Ben-my-Chree: Woman of My Heart'...

I would think it extremely likely that a period in a convalescent home followed service in the Dardanelles, though there was a naval flying training school at Eastbourne.
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Eastbourne , Sussex - Fowler Flying School taken over 8.1914 as Naval Flying School. Temporarily closed 9.11.1916 on transfer of school to Vendome. Re-opened by 1.5.1917. Became 206 TDS 1.4.1918, then 50 TDS 15.7.1918. Left 1919. See 'A
History of the Eastbourne Aviation Company' (An Eastbourne Local History Society publication) by Lou McMahon & Michael Partridge.

East Fortune, East Lothian. Opened August 1916 as airship station. Used for home defence detachments. F Squadron for aircraft ashore from HMS Furious by Jan 1917. 208 TDS from June to July 1918 (left fro Leuchars). Torpedo Training School formed 3.7.1918, becoming 201 TDS on 14.8.1914 and Torpedo Training Squadron 30.4.1919, disbanded 1920. Grand Fleet School of Aerial Fighting & Gunnery formed from 208 TDS 19.7.918, leaving for Leuchars 10.11.1918. 185 Squadron (Sopwith Cuckoo torpedo bomber) formed there 21.01.1918, and disbanded 14.9.1919.
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Nick,
Thanks I have the basic info on the Convalescent home, did not know there was a base too, however I have now found the RAF listing of all bases.
My service records doo suggest a period of sick leave then to Eastbourne so maybe he did both!

As he was HMD Ark Royal based I have considered if he was also based flying and living from Aliki bay as this may indicate. I hav yet to find any records for that location and there is whiskey may also commenting on a live forum with me too.

Kephalo Bay Lat 40.17, Long 26.0
25th June 1915 - 1:40pm: Lieutenant Garnett left in 1437 for Seaplane base
3rd August 1915 - 3:00am: 1st Dispatch boat left for patrol, Lieutenant Garnett in charge
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Nick, I will look at his dates again, my last post said my other reply was on a moderated forum and has to be checked first that fine but what does it mean?
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I gather that there is a sensor which is activated if you post too frequently so that information can be held and checked that it is not spam. One of my postings was held yesterday also.

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I wish I could spot the trigger for a message to be held. It's not frequency of posting - but the system really doesn't like Nick posting, which is a shame. There are certain words which trigger a "hold", which I use in a Cnut-like attempt to keep the spammers at bay, but none of yesterday's "holds" were triggered that way.
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