The Forum is administered separately from the rest of the website - please log in below to post
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - East Fortune Personnel 1.4.1918
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

East Fortune Personnel 1.4.1918

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Dealboy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 08 Jun 2015
Location: DODDINGTON,
Status: Offline
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dealboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2015 at 16:43
My grandfather's name is Francis George Parker and his service number is F202358.
Regards Geoff
Back to Top
NickForder View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Location: Bolton
Status: Offline
Points: 1369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NickForder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2015 at 19:01
I think that I have him but under a different number. This is his RNAS record :
F2358
Francis George Parker
Date of Birth 1 Feby 1894
Place of Birth Deal, Kent
Occupation Plumber & Fitter
Date and Period of Engagement 30 November 1914-4 + 4 years
Height 5' 9"
Chest 37 1/2 inches
Hair - Light
Eyes - Blue
Complexion -Fresh
Scar on right temple. Scar left lower jaw
HMS Pembroke III rated as Air Mech 2 from 30 Nov 1914 (1 Dec 1914 deleted) - 31 March 1915
HMS President II Air Mech 2 1 April 1915
HMS President II (Wing No 1 Dunkirk) Air Mech 11 August 1915
HMS President II (Wing N0 1 Dunkirk) Leading Mech 15 Dec 1916 to 13 Feb 1917
HMS President (Somme) 14 February 1917 - 24 November 1917
HMS Daedalus (Cranwell) 25 November 1917 - 31 March 1918

Mentioned in Dispatches.
Back to Top
NickForder View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Location: Bolton
Status: Offline
Points: 1369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NickForder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2015 at 19:16
The RAF Museum Story Vault has 202358 Corporal Mechanic FG Parker listed on the 1 April 1918 RAF Muster Roll.

'Enlistment date' is given as 15.12.1916 but, clearly, this is when he became a Leading Mechanic (see above).

Pay was 5 shillings (25p) a day.

http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/?7000133955

Back to Top
NickForder View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Location: Bolton
Status: Offline
Points: 1369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NickForder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2015 at 19:19
77 Squadron was formed at Thetford on 1 October 1916 by redesignating an element of 51 Squadron. 77 Squadron was destined to be a Home Defence unit long before formation. However there are few records of operational sorties by 77 Sqn, possibly because the Zeppelin threat against Scotland had all but disappeared by the end of 1916. Certainly the disbanding of 77 Sqn was considered in order to provide pilots trained in night flying for an FE2 bombing unit (100 Sqn ?) going to France. Disbanded at Penston 13 June 1919.

16 October 1916 (24 years to the day before 602 & 603 shot down a Heinkel as the first Luftwaffe aircraft to be brought down on mainland Britain) 77 Squadron moved to Edinburgh with detachments at Turnhouse, New Haggerston in Northumberland, Whiteburn and Penston. Became 77 Squadron RAF whilst at Turnhouse. In May 1918 moved to Penston with a detachment at Whiteburn.
No fatalities.

Aircraft                       Serial     Notes
RAF BE 2c          October 1916 – November 1918
RAF BE 12          October 1916 – November 1918
AirCO DH 6          October 1916 – December 1916
RAF BE 2d     H8256     October 1916 – December 1916
RAF BE2e     B4507     January 1917 – November 1918
RAF RE 8          May 1917 – July 1918
BE 12b          December 1917 – September 1918
Avro 504K Nightfighter     E3273     September 1918 – June 1919


7 March 1917
77 Sqn bases were Turnhouse, Whiteburn and New Haggerston.
Aircraft Establishment : 18
Strength : 5
Available 4
Pilot Establishment : 18
Strength : 8
Available 7

Colinton
Lothian
LG 77 Sqn 1916

Cairncross
Borders. 8 miles NW Berwick. 77 Sqn landing ground (LG) 10.17=c12.18

Eccles Toft
Borders
LG 77 Sqn 1916=late 1917
RAF Charterhall later built on site 1942 for 54 OTU.

Gilmerton
Lothian
LG 77 Sqn late 1916=c12.1918

Hoperigg Mains
Lothian
LG 77 Sqn 1916=1917

Horndean
Borders
LG 77 Sqn.
RAF Winfield built on site, beginning flying in May 1942.

Kilconquhar
Fife
LG 77 Sqn 1918

Kincairn
Central, near Stirling
LG 77 Sqn 1916=1917

New Haggerston
LG for 77 Sqn 1916= end of war. In 1918 used by 256 Squadron on coastal patrol duties. 526 (Special Duty) Flight was formed on 30 May 1918 at New Haggerston, and was also known as B Flight of 256 Squadron with HQ at Seahouses. Disbanded March 1919 at New Haggerston and absorbed back in 256 Squadron. Aircraft : DH6 B3035.

Skateraw
Lothain
LG 77 Sqn 1917=1918

South Belton
Lothian
LG 77 Sqn late 1916=end of war

South Kilduff
Fife, 3 miles west of Kinross
LG 77 Sqn 1916=1918

Tynehead
Lothian
LG 77 Sqn 1917=1918

Whiteburn
Borders
Opened in 1916 as flight station for C Flight 77 Sqn.
August 1917 B Flight.
1918 A Flight.
Back to Top
Dealboy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 08 Jun 2015
Location: DODDINGTON,
Status: Offline
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dealboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2015 at 09:08
Yes that's him, his original number in the RNAS was F2358 and when they were
 absorbed into the RAF they added 20 to the beginning of the number.
I guess then that his service at East Fortune and maybe Drem? will be on his
RAF record which is not available from TNA because he also served in WW2.
Many thanks for your help
Regards Geoff
Back to Top
NickForder View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Location: Bolton
Status: Offline
Points: 1369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NickForder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2015 at 09:32
West Fenton/Gullane was purchased back from the farmer just before WW2 and reopened as RAF Drem.

The WW1 buildings had been maintained in the interim, with the hangars being used as milking sheds and the officers' mess as a pigsty.

With East Fortune it was not possible to reopen the old station as it had been taken over as a TB sanitorium. As such, the old RNAS buildings still survive and, probably, represent the most complete surviving RNAS station.

The 'new' East Fortune was opened a short distance away, as a satellite of Drem. It is the WW2 site which now houses the Museum of Flight, though its status as a world heritage site, based on being the departure point for R34's transatlantic flight, is a little questionable.

If you send me your email address through 'private messages' I can send you a scan of the service record.
Back to Top
lancashire View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 28 May 2015
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lancashire Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2015 at 16:31
Dealboy,

Did you ever get the chance to discuss how they maintained the flying machines, it must have been quite a challenge, apparently when my sister and I were taken to those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines my grandfather was less than amused by our "giggles" as he commented to the fact that mechanical issues was not so great when up in the air! I have on the web found some engine, filed workshop pictures too.
Back to Top
Dealboy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 08 Jun 2015
Location: DODDINGTON,
Status: Offline
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dealboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2015 at 13:27
Sadly my grandfather was like so many who never spoke about the war-in his case
both World Wars.I only remember a few instances when I was young and had a 
model Sopwith Triplane which he called a Tripehound -and I now know this is what
their nickname was -and that he spent most of 1917 maintaining Triplane engines
for No1 Sqdn RNAS on the Western Front.
As well as the day to day maintenance of the aircraft to make them ready for
operations mechanics also had to go out and fix or salvage aircraft that had
come down away from aerodromes. One of my grandfather's fellow air mechanics
Charles Hibberd wrote in his diary-held in The Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton
about several trips to repair and salvage machines potentially under fire and on
one occasion changing an engine in 3 hours!
My grandfather was mentioned in despatches probably for an action like this
Regards Geoff
Back to Top
NickForder View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Location: Bolton
Status: Offline
Points: 1369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NickForder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2015 at 11:28
I spoke to the head of the Air Historical Branch about the lack of published works about RAF groundcrew, and how my father lamented this (having been one, albeit on Valiants). The - quite appropriate - response was "has he written up his recollections ?"

Fred Adkins 'From the Ground Up' is worth looking at. PE Butcher's 'Skill & Devotion' is about his time as groundcrew with 2 Sqn and, of course, there is McCudden's 'Five Years in the RFC'.

Though out of period, I would recommend Gregs Farish's 'From Algiers to Anzio with 72 and 111 Squadron'.
Back to Top
lancashire View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 28 May 2015
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lancashire Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jul 2015 at 09:39
Via the great War Forum, I was advised of the Kingston Aviation website that not only has historical pictures of the Sopwith Factory showing construction methods, they have 3 years worth of Sopwith History, giving details of orders, parts, costs for 1913, 14, 15 is small detail with even more photographs. (Pilots are named, first armed sorties in the Dardanelles, fighting roles etc.
It also goes into airplane shipments to parts of the Empire some noted as secret. (Bombay, East Africa)
I will also post this as new topic Sopwith at Kingston.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 10.03
Copyright ©2001-2011 Web Wiz Ltd.
Create your own user feedback survey
find us on Facebook Follow us on TwitterGrab our news feed