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    Posted: 26 May 2011 at 15:58
Does anyone know when the RAF ceased to use army ranks and began to use RAF ranks: Pilot officer, Sqdn leader, Wing commander etc.
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'The Royal Air Force in the Great War' published by the Air Historical Branch of the Air Ministry in 1936 states that the new ranks came into force in August 1919.
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David,
Many thanks for that. I asked because Duncan Grinnell-Milne was a serving RAF officer in 1929, yet he gave his rank as a captain - when buying a Rolls Royce, no less!.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote drailton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2011 at 20:11
Although the piece in Wiki about him states that he retired from the RAF in 1926 according to the London Gazette he retired in 1925 as a Flight Lieutenant . In June 1919, just before the change in ranks, he was a Lieutenant (Acting Captain) so it would appear that he never held the substantive rank of Captain.
He was recommissioned into the RAF as a Pilot Officer in April, 1939 although this was cancelled 3 months later.
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The Feb 1919 RAF Air Force List records DG-M as a Lt (act Capt 21 Oct 18).
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alex Revell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2011 at 10:05
I think the Wiki piece must be inccorect in one respect, because G-M was sent to France in 1929 on diplomatic business, which he was qualified to do because of the fact that he was still in the RAF. At least that was the reason he gave me.
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Alex,
 
DG-M appears in the Jan 1931 edition of the Air Force List under its Retired List section as having retired 4 Oct 1925. So he could have been 'in' the RAF in 1929?
 
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Errol,
I only know what G-M himself told me as to  why he was sent to Paris in the late 20s. His particular duties were only possible because he was  a serving officer of the RAF, which opened doors which would have been closed to him if he were  a civilian. 
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Alex,
 
Oops, just notice that my
 
"So he could have been 'in' the RAF in 1929?"
 
Should have read
 
So he could NOT have been 'in' the RAF in 1929?
 
Perhaps he was returned to the active list for the short time he was in Paris on some sort of one-off arrangement, an arrangement and/or time so short as not to warrant publication in the LG? Just a thought.
 
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Errol,
Yes, possibly.
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