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Hi
He is the man I am after.  The problem is which one is he?
 
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I'm not sure if you have the info on the 3 remaining signatures.  So, I may be duplicating information.

Foster, Romney Claude Godwin
Birth: Transvaal, Johannesburg
 
In 1901, he is living at Parish Nook, Clay Hill, Enfield, Middlesex with his parents, Arthur Livingston Foster (Managing Director of Anglican (Transvaal) Mining & Finance Company, 1901) & Emma Marie
I could not locate him in 1911, but his parents are living at Chartwaye, Limpsfield, Godstone in Surrey.
 
 
Lodge, Christopher Fyers
Birth Registration: Apr-May-Jun  1893 
District: Honiton  County: Devon 
Volume: 5b  Page: 31 
 
I believe they can be found at Southend, Paignton, Devon with his parents:
Nesbett B (Clergyman Church of England, retired Naval Instructor Royal Navy) & Alice
 
 
Purves, Stanley Stuart Beattie

I have limitted access to Scotish records. I can only find a Thomas Purves in Kirkcaldy, Fife -> Thomas Purves, 27, Boarder, Draper's Assitant. It doesn't say if he is married.

 
Grimwood, Herbert
 
Unfortunately, I could not locate his medal card.
 
The 1914 directory for Leverstock Green has a listing for the firm Grimwood, Morse & Mortimer, Market gardeners, French gardens. A researcher, Barbara Chapman, for Leverstock Green notes the following:
 
HERBERT GRIMWOOD 1875~1929

Herbert Grimwood, star of stage and the silent moovie came to live in Leverstock Green sometime before 1914.  On returning to the village after the war, bearing the rank of Captain, he organised some entertainment to help raise funds for the much needed Parish Room.  In this he involved many of his West End contemporaries, so that for a short time in 1919, numerous well-known names from the London theatre, gave their time and expertese in order to help our village.

From this, I have derrived:
Birth: Mar. 7, 1875    County: Essex, Greater London  Volume: 4a  Page: 113
Death: Dec. 1, 1929 Burial: Hollywood Forever, Hollywood, CA
 
I do have 3 identified photos that I will post next. This may help with the identifications.
 
Regards,
Karen
 
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Darn, there doesn't seem to be a photo with the RAeC ticket for Cross. I can not find a card for Purves.  Consequently, I only have 2 photos:
 
Leslie A.T. Strange
 
Grimwood, Herbert 1919
 
Sorry I couldn't find more.
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Front row: Foster, Purves, Unknown
Back row: Unknown, Unknown, Grimwood, Strange, Cross

What say you, Karen? Hickj?
What is needed is an observer's badge. 
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Kass,
 

First thanks for all your effort.

 

1               R C G Foster I think you have the right man.

2               C F Lodge Right man.

3                S S B Purves no argument which one he is I have other photos to confirm home from his family.

4               H Grimwood the address is spot on.  Looking at the photo I suggest that he could be chap front row first left, Grimwood was a Captain and this chap has a Captains rank on his cuffs, although I have not been able to identify home via his shoulder badges.

5              A T Strange you are correct with this one.

6                     Cross not sure which one he is.  On re-checking the names and addresses yesterday there are four men with RFC associations.  Lodge, Cross, Purves and Strange.                     The only two who have been defiantly named and identified are Purves and Strange.  There are no RAeC records for Lodge and Cross .

 

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Kass and Newbie

 

First thanks for all your efforts.

 

1               R C G Foster I think you have the right man.

2               C F Lodge Right man.

3                S S B Purves no argument which one he is I have other photos to confirm home from his family.

4               H Grimwood the address is spot on.  Looking at the photo I suggest that he could be chap front row first left, Grimwood was a Captain and this chap has a Captains rank on his cuffs, although I have not been able to identify home via his shoulder badges.

5              A T Strange you are correct with this one.

6                     Cross not sure which one he is.  On re-checking the names and addresses yesterday there are four men with RFC associations.  Lodge, Cross, Purves and Strange.                     The only two who have been defiantly named and identified are Purves and Strange.  There are no RAeC records for Lodge and Cross .

 

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Kass and On Patrol,
 
Forgot to say I spent some time trying to identify who was who by there badges but am not able to get very clear views of them just a general shape.
 
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Here is my reasoning for placing Foster seated left: Foster was the only man in the group who was a Captain when captured. Grimwood was a Lieutenant. Foster was the only decorated officer of the bunch and he appears to be wearing an M.C. ribbon. As to placing Grimwood middle back, I took a long shot. He looks to be the oldest man in the photo and Karen has revealed his birth year to be 1875.  There are only three pilots in the group each of them wearing pilot's wings. Comparing Strange's RAeC pic with the group photo places him back fourth right, leaving Cross nowhere to stand except back far right. Your reaction, please. Patrick
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Patrick,

At this point in time I think yours is the most plausible explanition.  I really would like to find some more photographs of these men; it would make life a bit easier!

 

HuckJ

 

 
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If J A Thin came from Edinburgh then perhaps he was part of the family that had the bookshop on George Street, Edinburgh.  This was a long established Edinburgh bookshop - only sold to Waterstones about 8 years ago.  There must be some of the "Thin bookshop dynasty" in Edinburgh still I imagine.  Hope this tit-bit helps your research.

 
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