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whiskymac View Drop Down
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The inverted a/c seemingly an Avro 504 (K?) serial (A?)8599.

The second - possibly also a 504 - reminds me of Michael Caine's words in the film The Italian Job - 'now whatever you do, don't move!'

Edited by whiskymac - 06 Aug 2016 at 09:57
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Just seen this series of posts and I can confirm that the aircraft in the original photo is a B.E.2c.
No idea as to a serial though.
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8599 is an Avro 504
A8599 was a BE2e
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Thanks for the confirmation Nick.   I just wasn't quite sure if that is a small 'A' visible before the serial - or not.   Sturtivant certainly does detail Avro 504C '8599' but curiously does not give any indication of any incident at Dover.

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One more of a crash in Dover, another 504? No date or other info.
Not surprising I suppose, the updraft from the cliffs must have made it a bit difficult taking off and landing. Swingate is pretty close to the edge.
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BE12 - BE2c type mainplanes and BE2e type tailplane.
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A8599 was an Avro 504A that was with 55 RS/TS at Yatesbury in May 1917.
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Our Charlie liked to collect photos of crashed aircraft!
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l think the dates wrong here .It looks to me to be a post-war crash.
"early 1917 "is certainly in error.
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What make this a post war crash? Early 1917 seems fine to me as they were introduced into service at that time.
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