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    Posted: 15 May 2016 at 14:49
Hi

According to a post on the Great War Forum' EdExcel is introducing a WW1 Aviation Unit in their History A Level. What is to be taught over 3-4 weeks includes:

1. Impact of aerial reconnaissance, photographic, observation and communication.
The development of the RFC as a fighting force.
2. The importance of technology in the development of air power in achieving victory in 1918.
3. The impact on public opinion, propaganda and defence system of Zeppelin and Gotha bombing on undefended British towns.

Other than that information is sparse, anyone with connections in education have anymore information, or has anyone been contacted for specialist advice?

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Mike, I think you should just be thankful that it is being taught at all.

The situation in Canada, Ontario in particular, is dire:

From: https://www.ontariohistoricalsociety.ca/index.php/petition

In 2014, high school students in Belleville, Ontario circulated a petition in support of making a Canadian history course mandatory at the Grade 12 level [ie; University entry level] in Ontario. Students collected over 2,000 individual signatures as well as more than 30 letters of support from notable Canadians. John Ralston Saul, distinguished Canadian author, eloquently responded:

“I cannot think of another country in the Western democracies which takes so little care to teach students about the foundations of the democracy and the country in which they live. This is not a matter of choice for students or parents. It is a matter of citizen responsibility. For governments to refuse to ensure that all students are given the opportunity to understand their citizenship by understanding their history is quite simply irresponsible. I most happily and enthusiastically join in the support of your campaign to have a mandatory Canadian history course included at the Grade Twelve level.”

It goes on... sad reading.

Be thankful
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Hi Ian

Thanks for your input on this. I was trying to find out several things including what specialist support Edexcel had used to 'construct' their unit on WW1 in the air. It appears that members of CCI have not been involved, the RAF Museum education department did not know about it, so I am presuming that the IWM were involved (or maybe some university departments?)but there is no confirmation on that. One hopes the material that will be supplied for this unit is up-to-date and accurate.
It remains to be seen how many education establishments take up this subject as there is a lot of choice out there for history students to study. It may or may not increase the interest in this subject amongst a younger generation and this may or may not increase interest in CCI and increase membership(I live in hope).

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Mike, God help us - and the kids - if the academics were the only people consulted.
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Originally posted by Alex Revell Alex Revell wrote:

Mike, God help us - and the kids - if the academics were the only people consulted.


Hi Alex

I know what you mean.

Professor Edward Bujak on page 4 of his 'Reckless Fellows' (2015) has:

"Shockingly, over half the 14,166 pilots who lost their lives in the war did so in training."

or Dr James S Corum in his chapter 'Air War over the Somme' on page 83, of 'The Battle of the Somme' (2016) edited by Matthias Strohn stating:

"A total of 8,000 British Aircrew were killed while training in the UK..."

Not bad out of a total of 9,350 actual British air services dead, all causes, all ranks men and women as found in 'Airmen Died in the Great War 1914-1918' DVD-ROM. Which has 2,870 "killed while flying" that is training and non-operational crashes on operational units.

But they do 'reference' it, back, of course, to Dennis Winter, so great academic research after 100 years?

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Originally posted by MikeMeech MikeMeech wrote:

Originally posted by Alex Revell Alex Revell wrote:

Mike, God help us - and the kids - if the academics were the only people consulted.


Hi Alex

I know what you mean.

Professor Edward Bujak on page 4 of his 'Reckless Fellows' (2015) has:

"Shockingly, over half the 14,166 pilots who lost their lives in the war did so in training."

or Dr James S Corum in his chapter 'Air War over the Somme' on page 83, of 'The Battle of the Somme' (2016) edited by Matthias Strohn stating:

"A total of 8,000 British Aircrew were killed while training in the UK..."

Not bad out of a total of 9,350 actual British air services dead, all causes, all ranks men and women as found in 'Airmen Died in the Great War 1914-1918' DVD-ROM. Which has 2,870 "killed while flying" that is training and non-operational crashes on operational units.

But they do 'reference' it, back, of course, to Dennis Winter, so great academic research after 100 years?

Mike


Hi

I have had a look through the 'killed while flying' and have reached a figure of 1,565 killed in training, that is from all RFC/RNAS/RAF training units around the world UK, France, Egypt, Malta and Canada (Canada 90 killed with a further 35 killed during 'winter' training in US). The deaths include Pilots, Observers, gunners and wireless operators. There are also some 'Ack Emmas' in the total, these may not have actually been during 'training' but may have been air tests or 'jollies'. Also there are some Russians, USAS personnel and a Frenchman attached to a British training unit when killed. I may have missed some of course but as some in the total may not have been killed in a 'training' accident I doubt if I am far off the correct figure. The figure of 1,565 is no where near Winter's 8,000 pilots, but still a lot killed in training.

Mike
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John(txic) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 07:47
A completely unscientific sample from cemeteries and war memorials in the Black Country gave me the following outcome:

7 killed by the Germans in action
3 pupils killed in training
4 pilots killed in accidents (2 of them being instructors)
2 mechanics killed on "quality control" flights
4 AMs died of illness
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